Controversy with Harrison Ford Interview
📌 The interview with Harrison Ford in 2009/2010 regarding forest issues (specifically Tesso Nilo) was heavily edited and shot with four hidden cameras in the Minister's office, suggesting a setup for a documentary or exposé.
👩‍⚖️ Zulkifli Hasan felt his detailed explanations about the difficulty of enforcement due to the post-reform era's "surplus democracy" and powerful local vested interests (e.g., 50,000 people controlling the national park) were cut out.
😠 Ford criticized the government for appearing weak against forest encroachers, comparing it unfavorably to the strength of the U.S. government.

Historical Context of Deforestation and Governance
🌲 During the speaker's tenure as Minister of Forestry, enforcing the law against illegal land clearing, especially in areas like Tesso Nilo and North Sumatra (e.g., the Almitorus case of 40,000 hectares), was nearly impossible due to local power structures and fear of public confrontation.
⚖️ The shift to broad regional autonomy (Otonomi Daerah) gave immense power to local regents (Bupati) regarding licenses for mining and plantations, complicating centralized regulation.
📈 The speaker notes that significant illegal land clearing (estimated at 4 million hectares of palm oil plantations without permits) is only now being addressed through strong central government action under the current administration.

Current Focus: Food Security and National Sovereignty (Menko Pangan)
🌾 The speaker’s current passion is leading the food security mandate, citing personal commitment stemming from his upbringing in a struggling rural area.
🍚 Significant progress has been made in carbohydrate self-sufficiency: rice imports dropped from 4.5 million tons last year to zero projected for 2025, and corn imports also reached zero.
📊 The Farmers' Terms of Exchange (Nilai Tukar Petani) rose from 116 to 124, indicating improved farmer income, partly due to government efforts to ensure farmers receive above Rp 6,000/kg for rice.
🥚 Future focus is on protein self-sufficiency (MBG Program), aiming to provide daily meals for 82.9 million people to improve national nutrition and intelligence (IQ).

Infrastructure and Bureaucratic Reform
♻️ The speaker has been tasked by the President to resolve the complex issue of waste management, including major landfills like Bantar Gebang, promising a solution for 34 locations within two years, drastically cutting down the previous 11-year licensing process.
🚧 Bureaucratic hurdles were immense; for instance, fertilizer distribution was hampered by 144 regulations, which were streamlined down to three via a Presidential Decree.
💪 Success in current roles is attributed directly to the President's strong support and political will (Keberanian), allowing administrators to bypass complex, often stalling, inter-ministerial and regional lobbying.

Key Points & Insights
➡️ The speaker regrets not being "braver" in enforcing laws against deforestation during his time as Minister of Forestry due to pervasive political risks and strong opposition.
➡️ Current efforts to tackle issues like illegal mining and land use benefit from a strong central command structure, contrasting sharply with the difficulties faced during the early post-reform era.
➡️ The core driver for the speaker's current work is honoring his father's wish to be useful and beneficial to the people of Indonesia ("Bela NKRI"), prioritizing economic dignity for farmers and fishermen.

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